Fold to 3bet

[kraada]

You can check when you are making a steal.

You can check to see what position you're in.

You can check to see if you made the first raise.

Therefore you can build a stat for how often someone did not make a steal, and then got 3-bet when they were not a blind.

You cannot tell when you are on the button that a raise came from any specific position with 100% accuracy. If either blind gets involved, you lose that data. We only store position data on one opponent: whichever opponent was the last opponent to raise. Yes we can therefore pick out the situations where the CO opens, the BTN 3-bets and the CO folds from both directions. What we can't pick out are the opportunities. Specifically we can't figure out how often the button had the chance to 3-bet in that scenario because there are some opportunities where he opted not to 3-bet that will get lost because one of the blinds will 3-bet. Since we can't get an accurate opportunities column, we can't get an accurate stat. A specific stat for "fold to 3b from CO vs BTN" is not what the linked thread talked about at all. It talks about how often a player 3-bet facing any raise so long as that raise was not a blind steal. If you wanted any button 3-bet, that we can do easily. What we cannot do is button 3-bets vs exactly one particular position.

I hope that clarifies things a little.

[zubs1aa]

o k so you can track when they DO what you are tracking, but can't get when they Pass on it right?

Add this isue to the features needs. IN mid to high tsakes MTT play, or almost any late game play in MTT.... having 3bet oportunitity (and even 4bet) is invaluable.

If you know how often he does it, how often it works/fails etc.... that is where you print the money by exploiting....


THere are a bunch of variations on how one might look at this item, it's not restricted to juts this one scenario. Would love to see it improved...

[kraada]

Improvements here are definitely coming.

[mager]

I'm not sure i got it/you got it. I'm not looking for CO open, Button 3bet, CO fold specific stat. But i'm concern about the fact that this scenario does not get counted in any way.
Is it possible to have a stat "fold to PF 3bet when raised" by any position(not exclude when "att to steal" like the stat that exist now)?
Is it possible have a stat "ATT to steal and fold to 3bet"(same as "fold steal to blind reraise" but also count CO open, Button 3bet, CO fold)? This one with the existing "fold to PF 3bet when raised" will give full range of fold to 3bet if i'm not mistaken(correct me if i'm wrong).

Thanks.

[WhiteRider]

That stat is available for download from the "Get More" section.

[mager]

That stat is available for download from the "Get More" section.

Found it, thanks.
What about my second option? Fold to PF 3bet when first raiser based on position? In 6max this will mean [UTG,UTG+1] and [CO,Button,SB] separation. This will be the best i think. it will implement what kraada tried to do with his stat.
If its possible please let me know how to do it. Also, please let me know how PT3 will count it when there are less then 6 players.

[kraada]

You can add that stat to your HUD and set it to display for EP, MP, LP or Blinds as you would like. You can find details on how to do that here (with a picture of what positions count as what type).

[mista_nice_guy]

I was looking fpr the same stat and i found it in the repository: "Fold to PF 3bet when first raiser"

My problem is I need it for SNG/Tourney, but the stat is Cash-only...

[kraada]

Once you import it click Configure --> Configure Statistics, choose Holdem Cash Player Statistics on the Sections page and go to the Stats tab. Click on the stat and choose "Holdem Tournament Player Statistics" from the drop down and click "Convert to" and the stat will be converted to tournaments for you.